A kell is a kiln says the Buxton from Kent when he says " Generally the oast has three kells ".
Then a oast must be a house replies John Kinsley Labatt.
Something like that, replies Buxton the brewer of the elite England banking family.
Ah ! And how appropriate it is that my name is Eliza Kell says the wife of John Labatt.
Then let us call our hop and malt drying house the oast kell. says he.
What the Kell, why not ? says she.
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Is there a connection between Kell and Kellogg, as in Kellogg, Idaho.
A 1926 article in the Spokesman Review reads as follows:
F W Bradley of the Bunker Hill and Sullivan Mining and Concentrating company, has arrived from San Francisco, Cal., and gone to the properties at Kellogg, Idaho.
Probably Bradley drove by the local sign that read, " You are now hear KELLOGG. The town by which was discovered by a JACKASS and which is inhabited by its descendants "
Noah Kellogg was a prospector who borrowed a burro and a grubstake in the nearby town of Murray while down on his luck. The guys who lent this gold prospector the donkey and a few bucks were named John T. Peck and Origin O. Cooper. This was in 1885. Noah was camped down for the night when his mule took off on him. When he woke up on September 4, 1885 he went out and found his jackass on a hill. That hill just happened to be a rich outcrop of lead ore.
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What the Kell ? Just beside Wardner and Kellogg there is a Smelterville.
If a Kell is a Kiln and a Oast is a house then a Smelter must be a Oast Kell - or a Kell Oast !!!
Noah Kellogg's find became Bunker Hill and Sullivan mine. A small settlement of miners became the town of Wardner. The Wardner name came from one of Kellogg's partners named James Wardner. Another of his partners was Philip O'Rourke. Cornelius Sullivan was a prospector and a friend of O'Rourke. Wardner, supposedly was an investor more than a prospector.
Pretty soon all of these names and others were competing for mining interests in the area and many lawsuits were filed.
And the story moves on from there.
Just above the town of Wardner, the town of Kellogg came to be.
Bradley was involved with both Bunker Hill and Sullivan and with Alaska Treadwell Company. He was a close associate of Stanly A. Easton and Bradley was the man who built a smelter nearby.
But why Kellogg ?
Noah S. Kellogg was born in Ohio in 1829. He made a million and a half when he sold his mine.
I went to a 1903 book by Timothy Hopkins titled Kellogg's in the Old World and New World to find out more about the name.
As it goes, Hopkins says, in the old world when pagans were being Christianized they were taken by bunches and baptized as clans. For example a full settlement was renamed Kellogos and all or many men in the clan became Peter or Paul or Joseph or another Christian name. To differ them they were further known as Peter the small Kellogos or Peter the big or Peter the miner etc. The girls were Catherine or Mary etc.
Kellogg, says Hopkins book, came in many variations but the first converted pagans, according to one interpreter, were of Saxon ( German ) origin which suggests that they were named after the German word Keilhau which is a word used to describe a miner's pick axe.
These Keilhau clans somehow made their way towards Scotland by the time King James VI of Scotland ruled around 1566. James VI of Scotland also took on the title of James I of England after the last Tudor dynasty Queen, Queen Elizabeth I, died in 1603. Elizabeth also ruled Ireland. James took over the ruler ship of all tree nations for a time.
If this is right then the Keilhau clans moved into England, Wales and Ireland thereafter.
However others suggest that Kellogg and its variations are descended or invented from the ancient word "Kill " which referred to " Cemetary " and " " Loch " which is " Lake ". If so, the Kill Loch, or clan of the cemetery by the lake, would have become the Kellogg.
I have my own version. " log " was ancient word that meant " key ". So if Kell is Kiln then the clan that ran the furnace house or the kell oast had the key to this guild; they held the secret of smelting or the key secrets behind running a kiln house where grain, hops, or malts can be refined. They were the Kell, Kelloggs, etc....
Or they may have held the key to the incinerator by the cemetery by the lake.
What the Kell..........something like that.
Before long the Kell, Kellogg, and all the other flavours were in America. However, they don't seem to exist before about 1400 under any of those Christianized variations. So without insulting anyone, they must have been barbarians in Europe, similar to the savages or Indians in America which ironically needed to be assimilated after the Europeans arrived.
When they arrived to the Americas they came under the banner of one of the many religious denominations that had evolved from the early Church of England.
For example, Kellogg's in the New World says this -
- In 1633 Reverend Thomas Hooker, with 200 passengers, arrived in Boston and settled in Newtowne. Mister Hooker was a famous minister of Chelmsford, Essex County, England, 11 miles from Braintree who had been silenced for non conformity,....
In the old world there were the Kellogg's of Braintree. Amongst them were Samuel, Daniel and Joseph. Their descendants moved around and pretty soon reached the Hudson river and Lake Champlain and then Canada. Other Kellogg's remained in the US.
Interestingly, Newton was formed as a county in Canada when King George III of England reigned. Newton is by some standards a border or "marche" and it might be that when the British new they were losing the old Newtowne they named a new one in what territory they had left in America. It wasn't long after that the war of 1812 broke out and then the rebellions of 1837-38. The British were trying to erase the French heritage which was highly based on Roman Catholic and Jesuit missions and beliefs.
It is interesting that John Treadwell was Governor of Connecticut in 1809. Another Treadwell sold his mines in Alaska to investors, including the Rothschild group. Those mines were formed and later taken over by Bradley and others.
Nathaniel Kellogg was probably born in Braintree and according to the Hopkins source was the first Kellogg in America. He died around 1659 and left his farm to his wife Elizabeth Kellogg.
And so on goes the story................
What the Kell...........all of this and I am no closer to knowing if Kell is connected to Kellogg. I am almost convinced however that the Kell name and the Kellogg name is descended from kilns which are ovens used in all types of trades.
In ancient times trades were well kept secrets. Every trade was a guild kept protected from spies who might want to learn how to use these talents. The story of how the Russian Peter the Great disguised himself as a laborer and worked in other parts of Europe in order to learn the ways of the advanced nations exemplifies this perfectly. Peter the Great went back to Russia and brought the country into the industrial world.
Kell was to brewing what Kellogg was to mining, smelting and corn flakes.
What the Kell.........I give.....
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